“I think I should post the scene of Rin drinking from a condom to end this argument, but I won’t.”

WTF, WHAT VERSION WAS HE READING, an ero-doujishi? or was he deliberately misrepresenting a scene in Volume 2?

On an AoD board (when someone commented on physical vs mental arousal):

“”No, your honor, I was just aroused, I’m not attracted to Childen…”"

WOW, it looks like HE didn’t notice Aoki’s lack of interest from the other volumes, or from other chapters. Outside of some physical contact, HE IS NEVER AROUSED BY HER, maybe embarrassed, but not aroused.

I’m seriously getting more and more pissed at SS, They seem to be going to new lows in an attempt to justify there decision. I take back much of what I said on there boards (as “LordShade”) when I was defending them. They are COMPLETE cowards, who probably had there views tainted by the complainers…

I hope they stop this idiocy, but I kind of doubt it…

They lost a few sales…

He just fucked the bulk of the hardcore community and he thinks what we want in a more personal touch?

But then, if you read the post, I’d say he makes it fairly clear that he wants no part of the hardcore community in his company.

Still, after it all, I think Watashiya-sensei said it best herself: “I wondered, what was so problematic in volume 2, but not in volume 1?”

While DeAngelis will claim ignorance by pointing to volume 3, I feel that she’d ask the same question. Ah well.

Someone donate me $10k so I can start up a manga company. I’m assuming that will do it.

Haha.

What the HELL is his problem…

It’s like, I guess it goes back to this, should we start discussing the banning of Lolita because it talks about illicit relationships? How about any of the books on the subject of the old ages, where marrying and boning a child were common practice?

Or is it the pictures that’s bothering DeAngelis? Are we to say art can only take one medium and still be acceptable? Pictures AND words is TOO MUCH?

If DeAngelis wants a fair argument to the problem, I’ve written about a jillion words here defending anything that’s can throw out. I’m hard pressed to believe that DeAngelis is properly separating fact and fiction. And that’s really the basis for it. I don’t buy books I like based on the morality of the people putting them out. Do you think any publisher who has published Lolita condones child sex?

I think that’s the problem, at a base. There seems to be this idea that anime and manga are either for kids, or that there is no such thing as lolicon. Or that people should have a say in what can be published and what can’t. DeAngelis should just admit that he wouldn’t be willing to HEAR any decent argument for why KnJ should published. Hell, people spoke with their wallets when they preordered it.

I can’t argue that DeAngelis made a decision for his company. That’s valid. I can’t abide, however, him sitting on the license for a year and acting like there was some sudden jump to the content he described. If I am remembering my CRAZY JAPANESE PICTURE WORDS properly, volume three was not the first instance of Aoki allowing himself to be sexed at. And that being enough to block the release just points to that same sort of society that’s allowed the FCC to trample free speech for a long time now.

I just want to know, still, why can I purchase it? Why do people that find it objectionable have to interfere with my enjoyment? How would they feel if I bitched about all the blood in Naruto and they edited it ou… oh wait. Ok, let me try again. What if I bitched about how boring Naruto got after the ninja trails and Viz decided to just drop the manga (because me and 50 of my extremely free time heavy friends bitched at them from every angle), but their cross licensing deal kept anyone else from getting it? What if they REALLY loved Naruto and COULD read scanslations, or the original, but just want the physical book in English, because maybe their Japanese isn’t up to snuff? The fucking internet would break, that’s what would happen.

And still, I’m bothered by the pedophilia thing. I know I keep saying it, but I just don’t really understand the correlation. Do I have to enjoy boned by chick with a strap-on to enjoy drawings of that? There’s a disconnect that I think is ignored there. I mean, maybe people just have a problem with noodie boobies or something. Lots of people. And they cry at night.

“Actually, He Is My Master would not be a problem because it doesn’t have scenes that show and allude to pedophilia.

Nymphet’s problem was very specifically due to the disturbing sexual relationship between a teacher and an eight year old student. We won’t be publishing any titles that cross that line. The fact that she’s eight and he’s a teacher makes it all the more difficult to justify.

We don’t have a problem with most sexual content or fanservice. Nymphet was offensive for good reason, and trying to defend it is a losing battle. Each volume gets progressively further into pedophilia territory.

If something we publish is offensive to someone and they want us to cancel the title, they better have a damn good reason on their side. In this one case, there was a good reason to cancel Nymphet.”

I mean, did he actually LOOK beyond the concept, or was he blinded by the debate?!!

Does it have any other jokes than Rin’s panties falling off? I think I read a chapter or two and they weren’t in evidence.

And as for the people you know liking it being pedophiles… wow, that’s a bit disturbing. You associate with pedophiles? I mean, I like it, I’m not a pedo. My ADULT girlfriend likes it, she’s not a pedo. Most of my friends like it, or otherwise don’t care, and I don’t know any of them to be pedophiles.

Or maybe we should broaden the range. Do you know people who are actively breaking laws? Are they downloading child porn or touching girls? because we have laws in place to cover that shit, and they don’t include books with drawings in them. And if they’re pedophiles who are breaking no law, who is to say they shouldn’t be allowed to feel however they want? As long as no child is harmed or exploited in the process. We’re trying to prosecute thought to protect THEM PRECIOUS BABIES and that’s not the way to go about it. As much as people might not like it, we have to wait until someone is hurt to call it a crime. Or at least until the intent is so completely clear that that it’s undeniable. And that’s fine by me. Hang the fuckers once you have them dead to rights. I’ll bring the noose. But wait until you have proper proof to do it. And KnJ certainly isn’t proof of shit… well, or there are a lot of Japanese guys violating age of consent laws by looking at naughty drawings.

Just for anyone who is too slow to get that, pedophiles who are beyond the shadow of a doubt either doing something wrong or planning to (watch To Catch a Predator), I’m all for shooting them on sight. But I do insist that DRAWINGS do not fall into the category of “humans” (and if they do, please let me know where I can go to see one, alive, on display) and as such are just as protected as my ability to call DeAngelis a cockmuncher.

Also, I really wish I could stress this, KnJ is not a spank volume. Hell, if it is, it’s the lamest spank mag to come out of Japan in a while.